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In Like Cyn – Season 1 Episode 14
Published to YouTube on March 19, 2015
Philosophy Talk!
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In Like Cyn – Season 1 Episode 14
Philosophy Talk!
Published on Youtube March 19, 2014
[KEY: Cyn: Cynthia Troyer; Cyn VO, Cynthia Troyer Voice Only; JL: Jason Long; CG: Cole Giannola]
Cyn: Hello, hello and welcome to another episode of In Like Cyn. We are here in Amish Buddha Headquarters and we are talking Philosophy on a Friday night. Wooo!
Cyn VO: Welcome to another slice of my real life hanging out with my friends.
TITLE: Cynthia Troyer screenwriter
Cyn: Welcome to Philosophy Talk!
TITLE: Philosophy Talk!
TITLE: Jason Long, writer
JL: A modern psychological framework. Then we could really see heaven on earth. As the ego sees it. You gotta see the world as it is. You gotta see everything how it actually is. The only way to do that is to stay in the moment. And at least from my experience, the more I learn to stay fully present in the moment, the more magical it becomes. My only job is learning to be here now. From there it all just kinda opens up. Life blossoms in front of you. You know.
CG: Yeah.
JL: Because there’s no desire, right. You’re not trying to get anywhere or do anything. There’s no body to save, there’s nowhere to go. Just do what you gotta do. You’re where you should be all the time.
TITLE: Robert Gold, writer, actor, poet
CG: Yeah.
JL: Right. If I feel like getting up and leaving right now. I get up and leave right now. Maybe I will. There’s a – there’s a saying – So before enlightenment a mountain is a mountain. And then there’s the awakening point, right?
CG: Right.
JL: And a mountain is a not mountain. And then after enlightenment, a mountain is a mountain. And it’s a trip, cause it’s kinda like that in real life.
CG: Yeah.
JL: It’s crazy how all this works once you – cause once you grasp the true nature of this thing we call life – like dude, it blows my mind. Right? There’s not really a mind there to be blown. Right now, can you just silence your mind? Can you not think at all?
CG: Probably not.
JL: Try it.
TITLE: Cole Giannola, psychology student
[LONG PAUSE as Cole tries to “not think”]
CG: I started to, but then I all of a sudden thought. A thought came in. But I can get there.
JL: You can get there.
CG: Yeah.
JL: Right, there’s this weird energy – you’re the will, right?
CG: Right.
JL: I wanna do that, right?
CG: Yep.
TITLE: Amish Buddha Headquarters
JL: So if you want to pick up something outside of you, you reach over and pick it up, right? Well what if my – so we have sensory experiences, right? And they build up, and they create energetic patterns within us we call “thinking.” It’s the exact opposite of what true thinking is. And it is my own thoughts.
CG: Your thoughts.
JL: Yeah, it’s what we call psychosis. These energies taking over the self, right? Now when you stand as the will that you are and you use that just like when you reach over to pick up a can. You use that against your thoughts and your mind. Then you’re using the will the proper way. The mind is the servant. But in our society today it’s become the master, right? The thinking mind, you know. The true mind is the master, right?
CG: Um hum.
JL: Because that’s what – that’s what we’re trying to attain the true enlightenment, which is a master over thought it sets it up. It doesn’t need to think, it needs to know. Two different things, right? And then it can – it can calm the – but you learn that in meditation. Medition is sitting there and watching your thoughts.
CG: Yeah.
JL: Learning to let ’em go. Learning to shut them off, right? And being aware of this too.
CG: And your feelings and emotions.
JL: Yeah but all that needs – All that’s garbage too.
CG: Yeah?
JL: It’s all garbage. Because any noise inside is keeping you from experiencing the truth. The feelings you’ll have when you shut off all that stuff is different. You feel bliss. Peace. Joy. Comical. Quite a lot. Ah, compassion. Right?
CG: Yeah.
JL: These are the things that arise from this state, right? Occasionally that – because these are factors. Once you get that first – once the door opens and you see through, you see through. Now you know, oh there’s a fucking door there. Then you gotta walk through it. And as you start to walk through it you’re slowly killing off the self. Seems kinda freeing. Freedom. You could lock me up in jail and I’d be just as free.
CG: Yeah.
JL: Right. Because I’m a force, right? I can do what I want.
CG: Yeah.
JL: It’s not necessary.
CG: You don’t have any desires. But –
JL: Not necessarily.
CG: You’re just living with experience, I mean – what you’re born in, and making decisions.
JL: Yeah, it’s – it’s weird because a child comes into the world and sees itself as one with everything, right?
CG: Mmm-hmmm.
JL: That’s how it sees itself. And at some point it forms an ego. And most modern psychiatrists and psychologists believe that the egoic structure is necessary for a civilization to work, right? No! No. It’s not. It is something that forms. Right? And if you turn that little ego just the right way then you’ll have robots. I’m never gonna be a robot. Yet I still go to work 40 hours a week. Right?
CG: Mm-hmm.
JL: I still do normal human things. But I’m not a robot.
CG: Right.
JL: I’m not – I’m just motivated by – By the way all the egoic structure, all the sense of self is built off fear.
CG: Yeah.
JL: You conquer your ego you conquer fear. And you can conquer that to greater and greater and greater degrees.
CG: Yeah.
JL: Right.
CG: That’s true power there.
JL: Right. Boom. That’s why compassion’s necessary. Right?
CG: Mmm-hmm.
JL: Because it’s a very powerful – in a sense it’s a powerful place to be.
CG: Yeah.
JL: You’re true power. You can’t hold anything over me. Threaten me with death. Or taxes. You can’t hold anything over – take away my freedom. Right?
CG: Mmm-hmm.
JL: That’s real power. You wanna be a true individual? It’s that you lose yourself. To find – to gain yourself. Kind of thing.
CG: Yeah.
JL: Comparison. It works. But if – if everybody were to be able to go through this process – peace on earth. No need for government. No need for money.
CG: Can you imagine living like in a tribe where that was what it was?
JL: Well I mean that’s – that’s how most tribes work.
CG: Yeah.
JL: They have – they have rituals. They put you through –
CG: Oh yeah. They really die.
JL: – death process. Like once you got a certain age they gave you really weird chemicals, right? And then they put on masks and they put you in a fucking crypt and carried you through a death process. So you could experience dying, and when you came back out of that you were at one with everything. They actually – their science was way better than ours. They – they created fully formed divine being. Right?
CG: Mmm-hmm.
JL: While we’re creating halflings. Right?
CG: Yeah.
JL: You know the painting in the Sistine Chapel?
CG: Mmm-hmm.
JL: God touching the finger of man. Yeah.
CG: Right.
JL: [SHRUGS SHOULDERS] That’s the job here. It ain’t about money, it about ‘hos, it ain’t about stuff. It ain’t about nothing that it appears to be about. It’s about attaining your true nature. You can walk this world as a man. Or you can walk the world as the God you were born to be.
CG: Well since we have these emotions and stuff like that you’re saying we shouldn’t – shouldn’t want to feel those and we should suppress them, or…?
JL: Not suppression. It’s natural as an animal to feel that way. Imagine that there’s a perfect state of perception where none of that shit matters. There’s a perfect – it’s called being.
CG: Mmm-hmm.
JL: Right. Perfect state — maybe not perfect action, perfect state of being. And when you attain that perfect state of being, perfect action always happens. You’ve broken the cycle of karma. You’re awareness in form. There’s no ego behind these eyes.
CG: Mmm-hmm.
JL: Right?
CG: Right.
JL: It may appear that way to you through your own ego. But there’s no ego behind these eyes. There’s no self. I’m just awareness.
CG: Oh, whoa!
JL: That’s what we’re going for.
CG: Mmm-hmm.
JL: I’m not attached to – but it takes this process of inner reflection to understand that process of attachments. Once you understand the process of mental labeling and attachment – mine, her, him, those –
CG: Just the fact that we’re attached to the body – like – it’s a mental free environment.
JL: I mean that – the thinking process and the attaching process comes about from early child from attachment to environment.
CG: Yeah.
JL: What we’ve got to do is become aware of that process of attachment – grasping that thing –
CG: Mmm-hmm.
JL: Stop grasping. Right.
CG: Yeah.
JL: And it doesn’t mean you don’t eat food if you’re hungry. If my body gets hungry, I eat food. If my body gets thirsty, I drink water. Right. If I wreck my car, I wreck my car. If I lose my job, well I’ll get another job.
CG: Yeah.
JL: If I get a job, okay, I got a job. If I get a girlfriend, got a girlfriend. Lose a girlfriend, lose a girlfriend.
CG: If my mom dies, my mom dies.
JL: But what understanding will bring you to that? And that’s knowing the truth, everything is one. There is no me, there is no you. What she is, you are. The Universe talking to the Universe.
CG: Mmm-hmm. That is what it is.
JL: God talking to God. That is what it is.
CG: Yeah.
JL: But to have that perceptual vantage point, that’s what we’re aiming for. That’s that Dharma. That perfect state of being. That’s living in the know, not living in the think.
CG: Mm-hmm.
JL: Right. Which is cool you’re going into psychology, by the way. You’ll get to dig into your own shit.
CG: Oh yeah.
JL But understand, really be aware of that feeling. Bad feelings. Right.
CG: Yeah.
JL: Imagine that is your thermometer – like temperature gauge.
CG: Mm-hmm.
JL: Anytime you’re disturbed, something’s wrong with you. Don’t blame it on your girlfriend. Don’t blame it on your mama. Don’t blame it on that police officer. And follow it with this. I’m not accepting some person place or thing or idea as being exactly as it’s supposed to be. You’ll find that every time you’re at that place, it’s the truth. And then you have to figure out how to just deal with the truth. Most people can’t deal with the truth. And I’m not thinking right now, I’m actually just feeling.
CG: Oh wow.
JL: In a different way, through intuition, you’re just waiting for answers to come, you don’t think.
CG: You just come to the now.
JL: Yeah.
CG: Do you believe that karma is the experience of your actions right now, in the future of this life, or do you think it’s always carried over in the next life? Like the life we’re living right now is all due to the karma in our past life, not from our past behaviors in this life?
JL: And I can say this – the Hindus – the Hindus would probably say something like this – that you carry over both good karma and bad karma, it’s not just one or the other, you carry over both. From your past lives into this life. You may not pay off your karma from a previous life in this life, but in the next life, or maybe 10 lives down the road. But whatever karma you create you eventually have to pay it off at some point.
CG: Right.
JL: Good and bad.
CG: Mmm-hmm. Oh yeah.
JL: Right. Good and bad. – Like Mr. Rogers. Remember, Mr. – You ever watch Mr. Rogers? Or you’re too young?
CG: Naw, I’m too young.
JL: Okay. Mr. Rogers he’d come into his house, right. And his house is all calm and sane and shit. And he’d put on his little sweater and shoes and sing his little song. And then like there was a little train in the back of his – and he would – the train would go through a little tunnel and it would go over to the land of make-believe. Right?
CG: Mm-hmm.
JL: Okay, and that’s where all the drama shit would happen. You go over to Mr. Rogers’ house he was a grown ass man. And he had all his ducks in a row. And over in the land of make-believe, right?
CG: Yeah.
JL: It was all drama. All kinds of troubles and stuff all the time. And Mr. Rogers had to come in there and step in and be the voice of reason. Right. And so it’s kind of where we’re living. Most people are in the land of make-believe.
CG: Uh-huh.
JL: And very few people live in the land of Mr. Rogers.
CG: Yeah.
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